Thanks for having me
Welcome to
Yes I mean I think I first saw you on Allison Morrow's show
That's how I first started looking at your work and I saw
Sasami Eclipse that they're pouring you a dime from the ground
I so you know I put this footage on the internet know the day after or maybe two days after
D'Agostino
Punjab
Any kind of contacting you can see things that are in some Corners internet
Singapore
Were you surprised that for example
Were you surprised
That
Your footage
Was sitting there on the internet in the corner of an heavy internet
Not getting beard
And here you had two hours
Straight uncut
Video
Of you not only
At the
Outside
Capital
As a
Journalist going into cover
Which remarkable is you can have if we have all this footage
From the last year that is
Sitting there
Sharon corners
Set the internet
And hasn't been seen
So
Thank you for sharing
This with us
Another first clip I'm going to play
Is you you actually come across it
The incident with a man falls
From up above
I'm going to play.
Clip
Right away so people can
Deceptive
This is a YouTube clip
At the Capitol
You hear someone say after seeing that we're going inside
And how early
Was this that you saw that
Man fall
This was not your video but yeah
Yeah I was I did not see him fall but I I saw him taken away on a stretcher
So
This this would have been
All right around 2
This is before any breach been made into the capital
That's interesting
Hey when you put it in that timeline and you
And you realize that
Moments like that can have a galvanizing effect
On the crowd
And they can exacerbate situations from what I have seen city-to-city
When you put it in that
Did this happen
For them
That certainly at in you here at the end of the clue
Clip someone says we're going in
I'm just trying to parse this information folks you should know that
We are going to play this 2-hour clip
And just a set a couple other things
You're going to see this man now there's a man I interviewed on January the
He told me he was a self-described
Extremist
And said quote I don't have a problem with
National socialism let's hear a little bit
From that interview nothing is changed how do we change what is something we can do to make a
There's some commonality when it comes to the the the black lives matter
People who feel disenfranchised on the other side
Scare Tactics at work
Law & Order Troy Country
MSM compound okay actually there's another part of the clip
As well as
Might as well play
I left I went out to the to the MSM compound stated the crap out of them and ran
I got about 20 Patriots with me and we went into the news media compound cuz I had like rescue Iran and everything
What compounds in the capital
The longest press they don't know what was going on
So it's interesting that this this individual was so was willing to talk to me so directly about
Agitating the Press
And his his beliefs
Narrow lot of people that were very candid
About why they were there
And we can talk about that
How's the clip rules
You're going to see that individual at an open-mic
Now it's important a part that doesn't
Appear
We might as well ask it now the woman who's hosting the open mic
Mike was it kind of thing where people can just jump on the open mic
Yeah yeah that it didn't seem that she really had a connection do on any of them she basically in
Invited anyone you know the. come say something
This is one of the Serta
Conundrums
V
Free speech
Is you don't know
Who will be there
You don't know if
This guy who does say he's an a******
Socialist sympathy
Will be the next person to grab the mic
And be the one
Who is
I kind of
Trying to get the crowd
Least passionate
Queen characterizes
Is that the other thing that I wanted
Bring up is we are going to see
A couple of moments where you interrupt
And if is there anything that you want to set up
As2
How do you deal without being a journalist
But also being
In the sea
For example we see someone who is hurt
Can you talk to them
In your mind how do you how do you make a
Differentiation is
Hey I'm a journalist
I'm not an afterimage
Yeah I mean it's certainly something that I've put some. Too I'm not sure I've come to a firm
Please know what I think
They're all should be the generally the idea would be
Not to interfere as much as possible you certainly don't want to be making the store you don't want to be
Agitating but you know if someone there a couple instances where it look like someone was hurt
And they're also couple Essences where it was it was getting very seated I sort of bottle
Kelly put myself between
Some of that protesters in the police there's also an incident will see where at
A protester did get very upset with me after
Yeah
Yeah we'll get into that but basically yeah
You know my opinion is try not to be the story
But at some point if people are going to get hurt there is a point
Where are you stopping
Great now we're seeing
The beginning of the clip here
You have come from the ellipse
And
Not enough flags that had like a kind of Crusader cross it was a white black
Flag
With in the Catholic Anton is the upper left part
For example there you see the stars and stripes
The stars are they in the canto
That
Flag that we just saw
I noticed had like kind of a crusader cross
Without a black
White
Flaxo so these flags are
You're also going to see Asian country flags
Going to see Trump
There
Back the blue upside down
American flags
There was a piece
Quartz or something
Did a piece on analyzing the flag
January 6th
It was very interesting
And I think it was done in a
In a fair manner
Because
Some flags are
You know come from internet subculture and ALT
Yeah and then I guess that one thing to point out the analyzing the flag is that
I'll let you know there were some
I believe that you know sort of extremist Flags a few of them but like if you look at this clip you can see
There a lot of slides a lot of slides
So you know the most common when you see is the American flag at the Gadsden flag you see a lot of those and also saw
Some version of like a trump flag that says Trump on it maybe has his face
So that there are a lot of flags in
I don't know I guess maybe you can
Thornton
Nest that if you
If you just look in the most extreme flag you might
Think they're more Representatives
I do I don't know
What's a water slides
I agree with you
One point was made
Previously
Flags and their are ubiquitous and obviously that's the glue that holds
A lot of this
Together the Gadsden flag you mention.
Don't tread on me
You do see that that you interpret that as
As more libertarian I'm just curious from different that's all how I've always
Viewed it but
I'm curious from your perspective
We come from
Different sizes
The Country Inn on from California from the Northern California
Pacifically
And you're from North Carolina so
As expected in oh I think it's fair to
Describe me left-of-center and you
Whether to politically or even just culturally
Write a set
So how do you
When you see the Gadsden flag for example how do you explain
How are you explain that to
A song from California like me who's just like
Is that a Libertarian flag
Yeah
Yeah so it would be a sort of using libertarian-leaning or Liberty
Liberty you being a not not usually libertarian like the party
Libertarian like the party isn't
Really my stupid thing and I start of hate to say it
But yeah
We might get some reactions on that way
Yeah I mean I think if you if you looked at this crowd you'd probably find very few libertarian
Party members
Just interrupt your second cousin
So if you do see that green fence on the ground that had signed saying area closed so I'm pretty sure anyone
I walked over that fence
Could be showers with at least a misdemeanor and as you can see there are a lot of people on the other side of the fence
But yeah and I've always described this crowd assertive now this is earlier than when I arrive
There's a fuckboy
Flag of
There Thursday when I arrived it was a lot more dense than
You're there much earlier than now your timestamp
On the video is not a cure
Correctly I believe it's closer to being from the beginning of the video not from
From
When is Darkside about
2 hours so it's about.
Tomorrow around 2:10
It's not
Not 12 is
Azure standard
So
We know that it was
Just before 1 p.m.
When the first
Barricade
Removed if it was 12:50
3 p.m.
With the timestamp
And New York Times has worked actually in conjunction with Elijah Schaffer of the blaze was one of
The first people
Who was
Videography
At about 12:53 and his video was used for the New York Times investigation with furtive
Rolls out
All this all
Progressive
I might as well say it now we are going to see Elijah Schaffer
As you are entering the Capitol and he will say something and I do have a statement
From him he is somebody who
I have seen I would say on two or three occasions both in the Pacific Northwest
And
In watch
DC when you when you cover these things
You do see the same people
Now
Before I talk about that I'm going to give everybody the Pokemon warning right now
Which is
When you
I don't know if you know that story win
Back in the day kids were fainting from watching Pokemon
He he would mention
Sent this
Cameras on your helmet
This can create a dizzying effect
To be watching this video
Yeah and I will mention her before the video started rolling you know sort of when I was walking
Walking to the capital I heard someone say
Oprah megaphone like they like big grease the capital basically
And you know I was I don't like seeing inside of the capital of that point
I thought it was nonsense
You probably experienced that sometimes you're in crowds things to get spread around and aren't true
But I'm guessing that was based on Elijah's Shaffers reporting side believe he got a tweet out pretty quick
That tweet
I saw
And
As I was
Cuz I'm at this point I think I'm looking for parking
If this is like 2:15
I'm deciding ultimately at this point to leave my car. You're moving much quicker
And I did because you're not going through the crowd somewhere on there
Giygas poster falls off
It might be a matter of interpretation to some but it looks to me in the video like he was crushed I did not see
Person once again
Oh yeah going to see the person
Stretcher
Hasnt happened yet
It probably is happening like right now in the video
Aura
Or shortly before
Okay so you didn't realize it was the guy who had fallen until he comes by on the stretcher
I was not aware that someone had fallen until I saw him on the stretcher so I'm saying
Evike I think so until like he broke his legs
Or something like that
Done with looking at him
One of the protesters
So it's possible as a couple minutes before I don't think I was that long so I do see them carry him away
So I could not wear so I found it later
What is this that we're saying here
I'm guessing that some sort of pull that was set up for the what
Baradar planning with the scaffolding and stuff I don't know
You also pan down to an empty hatch there an underground tunnel
Sonic saying
I like there's a tunnel here sounds like there's a tunnel I look and I've like I'm pretty sure that tunnel does not like
Go anywhere
I look more like a storm drain for the setup to me
Now at this point
You see the white
Closet that are starting to rip it down cuz
The white
Clock there
Covers the scaffolding for the inauguration
Is flat part between the two angles section of the stairway that you are sequins
I believe that's where the person fell from
It'll be at the bottom of it
That guy was in Black Block
And this agency
The
It's sort of hard to tell but these people right here they're over the guy who fell
Is it sort of hard to see in the video but they're
What's listening
So we're hearing flashbangs there
It sounded like it might am I correct
I'm not sure which cuz there was gas
Bender boards on point
This is about 2:15 p.m.
No
And they're yelling traitors will hang I think
Somerset
So yeah you're going to see quite a few projectiles Tyrone
It looks like a boat propeller and you can see the police start retreating
The video because it seems to me like there might have been some connection there
Between the person being injured
And people throwing stuff and the police are treating
No a comment came on that that was a knight Templar flag
That we saw a previously and one of the many designs throughout their so obviously that Harkens to the Crusades
Western culture Christianity
It's a song that is
What that flag was
We're going to see a flag that has some Germanic
Well letters on it which always worries me
Chili's
And that's going to come right is your entering the capitol little bit don't be a flag that's on the ground
Inda
I'm curious if you
I don't think I noticed that
Okay I'll point it out
But as this is playing out so we had seen the guy on the ground
That had been
Pushed off by please
And I think maybe
That has not been explored as to how much that was a galvanizing event
For this crap
The police yeah
I would like to interview someone who is there you know when one of the people approach
Protestor rioter
I'm CC what their mindset is that I'm not sure you'll laugh
Get much now with all the people basically going to jail
Well you know it'll be interesting to people
Are more willing to talk and it's time goes on
And yeah
And tell the story from this
First person point of view because as you can see
And you know it's going to get
Get heated
We know
Yeah
But it's experience this experiential look
From the point of view
Just like
I was being that there's another question you're not going to see gum
In my opinion did you see that
I did not see any guns I did see a baton know it look like
Something that had probably been taken from the police made a police Shield or two
You do see just in a bit so I was going to offer Breck's from out of one of these planners
Yeah
This is very reminiscent
Beyonce song with bricks
I believed I wasn't saying anybody
Farrah Franklin
Just wondering.
I think there is three
I know and took him up on it but I could that I could sell
Yeah
Which
I am some people like if someone was dressed in full tactical kit and had a Botana be like they probably brought it with
Don just in normal clothes with a baton as likely they picked it up from the police
Through
Still like Windows police from this area retreated that was the last line people went straight up that's
Stairway to you know inside where the store is
Okay so now you're up top
Towards towards the terrorists
Yes I'm standing on the railing of the Terrace
Okay
You can see there is like there's a quite a few people up there already and I'm pretty sure all of those came out that stairwell
Will you made QuickTime out of that because look at the timestamp now is 20
And I mean you got there much quicker
Just me getting there a half hour or so after you
And trying to go through the middle you went around you made very good time
Yeah I mean they're like if you look at some of the videos from sort of the center of that. I believe this is the west side of the cat
South Korea Center like where the bottom of the stairs were and where I it seemed like most the police were
I am some of that fighting was nasty but as you can
He likes so far I haven't and I saw people throw stuff you know I saw some tear gas sound
So far like I had seen much much violence
People brawling
Elijah Schaffer started getting people of one
Go run
Some of those Banks and like stuff falling over some of them sound more like explosions I can't tell you
Exactly what they were but I got out of there for a couple minutes after I
Jackie hero they're using LisaRaye on Sunday hear something at all
I wasn't sure what was going to go on so I stepped out for a bit
Have the Germanic letters today I have no idea what it is if anybody else knows please time in disguise
Just chilling
But yeah if anybody knows what that flag is Epicurious
It was just lying on the ground
Here's a statement I spoke briefly with
Elijah who you heard giving a warning and he said I was genuinely scared for my own life
People are going in
What if people light us up
I don't want anyone to get shot at any event
People weren't thinking
Didn't realize the severity
So I think maybe you had that exact same thought because you ducked away for free
Yeah that means someone did end up getting shot but it was that much further into the capitol
Right and I think that happens within 20 minutes of where we are now to find corrupt that.
That happens further in yeah I heard about it probably I want
About an hour maybe 40 minutes to an hour later it is sort of disseminated to keep
People who weren't in the same area that were in the capital so I'm not sure exactly when it happens
Well that's where I was a question up here about the man saying
They have a right to use lethal route
Yeah I can that is a reporter
Who said that and he
Told me
Stephen I just read that
He was worried that
People are going in and what if
They get lit up so so so
It's
When you're in the situation I miss you just
Showed us you know it was a scary situation you duck
Away for a couple of minutes
And now you're back in the missus entry in the Rotunda
Step sis
Yes that is a
Yeah I know sort of interesting
Some people serving some rumors about like people
Knowing the plan the people I was following did not seem like they were aware of the way out
They're just handed you wandering around
Now you just got to see a fire extinguisher fly over my head for the flu
Stop light
Does a fire extinguisher
Yeah
Search
Does definitely well this is like the most intense intense heart in terms of violence
Where to see a little conflict coming up right
Yeah yeah so what happened was I saw this guy with a flag American flag
Eagle on top it look like something he had grabbed out of the hallway
And I saw she was that he was approaching the officers and aggressive way so I grabbed the end of the
Swaggin it broke off like the eagle and she got very angry at me
So actually a counter encounter him again later in the video
I know I'll explain more than
Don't know how much you be able to see
So you're saying you were trying to stop him from using it
Double bass a couple people away from the police out and they're sort of pushing through the crowd
Any sort of had a look in his eyes it's hard to describe
Like Isaac can see a lot of people had cameras actually I did not expect that
Going in because I video filmed at left-wing riots were cameras are definite
Forbidden but these people are not not the same
Not the same sort of rules I guess
The cameras on your helmet we're getting
I didn't have the angle quite adjusted properly
Yes that's me talking to him
What job
Yes I think so
Confrontation or whatever I've air bases able to break through the police line that had four
Forms in the in the basement of the Rotunda here the police had been holding them back
You understand me
Yeah son bathroom talking to me
Start stopwatch
Alright then
I just I just noticed it's somebody mistook because the show called unblocked live anywhere
Which is January 6th 2020
Hey hurry I replay in real life this is a replay online only
Online
This is our house you hear it again
We saw the eagle the golden eagle of that I like
Just like that yeah it looked exactly like that
And you accidentally broke the eagle off is that
Moving toward the police officers and it broke off
And so after they started realized like yeah that probably was not a flag that he took from the hallway
Since it broke so easily
Yeah so it's so nice
When I ran into him later which will also see and I offered to replace the fly guy throws and then
He introduced himself and they gave me a hug I was so the strange encounter
That will will see that later
Someone just see someone that guy there he was hitting like a display
If I got a rod of some sort and basically everyone around him was like yeah you can see little damage was like
Hey don't do that
Interesting
I see you're going to see that the crowd is moving at obviously whatever police line was is holding them back is
Thriller
4000 away
Shashi rose gold sort of interesting they were there couple people there copley's have their sewer
You know separated from the line that was holding the crowd back in their sort of shuffled off to the side
Yeah and some to yours like now hey don't mess with them
There's that sort of that competing like we're attacking the police officers because they're in our way but also aware
Where Law & Order people we support police officers multiple instances where you sort of saw that
M&M Collision
There's a police officer
Shuffle off to the side
There's not there's a flag again with them
Same kind of letters
I love you sorry you sure there
Are you sure they're Germanic letters cuz it
Just getting a glimpse of it they're almost dry me as some of those like stylized
People loitering I don't know if you seen that
Yeah so they're getting squeezed together and that's one thing that can happen
How do I open the back are pushing the people in front it doesn't matter if they don't want to go forward there go
Going forward
Especially when you have for the bottlenecks like that and you have a good clip
From your cell phone that'll show that a little bit more
How quickly everything can be good to be stasis and then all of a sudden
Are people pushing from the back all of a sudden it just bottleneck can you get
A complete chart
Yes I believe from here to
The door of the Chamber of the House of Representatives there wasn't there wasn't any police line blocking the
Krowd
Someone just come in and I think it's notable how
Little vandalism
Yeah
Yeah yeah that's definitely an argument against like it being all secretly antetha
Like I don't I don't think you know if they are far leftist actually disguise are Trump supporters
I don't think they could have resisted the opportunity to you know I knocked over some statues or maybe
Destroy some Priceless paintings so yeah there was there's not much
I think I did see a couple of broken mirrors and Pelosi's office
Besides that yeah it was it was a bit notable
Compared to other other riot
No I will go in in the 5-Hour in the group that I was with
Was destroying the offices cuz they're trying to build a barricade out of furniture
Yeah they were a very specific
Fringe group that was led by a guy with a grizzly long beard
Who walked up to me and said are you live streaming I said yeah they said he want the story of your of your life come with me
So a group that I was in prison with rational office this is now
Some part of the Rotondo
We are still on the basement level I believe
I feel that that round room that that we are in for a while that is the basement of the Rotunda
Those pillars sort of hold. That the Rotunda
I'm we're going to go out the stairs pretty soon
I'm go to the actual Rotunda
So again you would stated that it didn't seem people really knew where they were going
No not the people I was with so I was I was never near like the front
And I guess maybe by the time we got to House of Representatives for the backdoor but yeah
Yeah it's so the people there might have been people at the front who who had some idea where they're going
But most of he lies with just seemed like they were going with the floats for didn't really know where they are going
Yes okay are there people are going up the stairs
To sort of the main level
So so yeah so I'm still on the east side of the capital which is opposite side we entered from the entrances
Level up
So they're sort of the answer this from the Westside are on the ground floor and
Eustis on the east side or on that sort of the second floor
Where like the Rotunda is
Yes it has the Rotunda
Is this where they had done there was that one picture
Like
The
The people inside the Velvet Rope
National Statuary Hall which we also walked through
So you can see I can see all these statues here all these paintings there right there
That's why no antibiotics they would have destroyed something Shirley
No dnc's are all Trump supporters as far as I can tell is that for a few outliers like now
What is James Sullivan John Sullivan
Another other kind of Seether you can see that
There is kind of a unifying character to the crowd
Okay here we go it's not someone says it's not your Mana it's Old English font
Like the first one some custom phrase printed on an American flag a common practice
Per second amendment grips great thank you
Thank you so much for clearing that up
Yeah so this is that National Statuary Hall
I wish I was a lot of statues
They're right there in the next but statues
Possibly
I think need States ends to which the state decides you know who
Have out there
So big
Issue for me in the cover journalistically one of the hardest things to figure
And I think the Press has been a horrible job at
Is
In determining
What the
Quote-unquote white supremacy quotient is
Or
You know
How do you how can you even measure that
Because you see me you see me and how I look at this video I'm like is that dramatic letters is that you know
Yeah. That's across and I'm looking into every single symbol
Trying to find the white white supremacist
You know
And
We know that there are people who engage online
Whether it's
As you know
What is the lightest make a note about what's happening here cuz then people started gesturing dammit their hands they're trying to get fuel.
Quiet so I can sort of
Decide whether going to jail or like no maybe let someone eat who knows what's going on I don't think
It really happened
So you can see their wives Tom sammut amp2 organized I don't think it really you know hat
Able to communicate effectively
I'm sorry I'm sorry I broke your flag yes I see this I see this same guy
What's your name Steven
My name is Haya Haya
Drink right Steven
He was a Hebrew by comparison just to listen I love you appreciate you
This is not necessarily what you said to me
Let's go in together how about that
Now we're hearing things heat up
The House of Representatives
Getting besides confused this like right there like about 15 or 20 feet away from where I was standing
And I think we'll see that in a little bit the door to the House of Representatives
To the chamber on the other side of the chandelier like that's that's the door on the other side of the
That is quite possibly still Representatives
My congressman
What everybody does
Simi unified in their own I said this before and their belief that
No
Without the stop pastilles slogan is
Ubiquitous and and
Certainly the dominant rally a rallying cry
That. Whose house our house
Hi the most most common chant
But yeah it's it's sort of that definitely unified in that
Yes it's it's hard to see cuz I was sort of crowded like
But there's there's this hallway that we're emerging you know Saoirse the long hallway then there's that sort of entrance there
There's a little lot
Chamber that are just like a little square box basically and they're trying to get in
And the door on the other side of that chamber which is no other doors the House of Records
Pretty packed tight in there I don't think they were able to free side door I think
Barricaded and possibly possibly had at agents with guns on the other side
Died the right here than interest thing that's not right there
But I looked out the window and I saw like a little Plaza there and there it looks like there are hundreds of
Stop Standing There doing nothing which surprised me at the time it start
Surprise me now to get a clear shot of it
Are there anything there a couple police officer sort of standing off to the side
In this hallway basically not doing anything
Yeah I can see if you are signed up Highlands the little room
Are so many cameras there so much footage
Of this that is probably not enough
Unsolved on the FBI's hard drive
Yeah
So much
What you doing
See hear someone say come on let's go what the f***
Was there the feelings or definite
People who were
Sort of rabble-rousers cheerleaders or or
It didn't really feel like there are people whose
I
Like that if you want to challenge other people
It seemed like energy level was vastly different than the rest of the crap so where people yelling things but I
Kenmore felt like that was that was energy of the crowd it wasn't like people we're just like oh we're not doing
When one person is trying to get them to do stuff like the whole crowd had the energy
Assignments.
It does make sense went the crowd that I was
With two I felt it there were
I think maybe they were one or two people who are very active but the sentiment is
The momentum was propelled by the group entire
Opportunities for people that sort of note
Give little speeches
Ali said I saw until he know until I got outside then there were few want them biker that button here it wasn't like
Feel like getting speeches to psych them offer riled not I didn't I don't remember seeing anything like that
Now someone asked a question
I would Steven speculate why she thinks the rioters would have done
Should they have made contact with Representatives
I don't know I mean there were people changing things like hang Mike Pence
I I honestly don't know it's very possible that
They would have killed or severely injured
I certain representative maybe had they run into them one day I will say is I'm not sure that
Republican Representatives would have fared any better than the Democratic representative which is what sound
People have at least imply
1800 the crowd is a danger to the democrats' not their problem
I'm curious cuz I was talking about you'll see a bunch of officers
Start of standing around
Don't I saw that I was like maybe they dispersed everyone and these people inside just you know
Haven't got around to them
Batman I made it back outside fraction I saw on a television was lioness like nope there silly
Huge crowd but as police officers are just
Not doing anything
So I don't know what the deal was there
Well you know I I I would assume that
When you're overwhelmed this like this but there's no
Play book Earth there is certainly
Operationally getting it out to everybody hey what are we doing that
Isn't about now and I think is when the Virginia State Police come
And I think that the FBI came at some point I'm sorry I cleared out the cap
More like clear the rooms I don't think they're many people laugh
Where are you going to see briefly there there a couple police officers just sort of standing and watching
No not not really must three police officers can do it with this whole crowd trying to
Boston
How do they end up getting the people out from this part
They deployed a lot of chemical weapons
I don't know exactly what it was but
Garcia
Yeah CS gas River or
Hey sweetheart there is so much gas you know you couldn't see like 20 feet down the hallway
I mean operationally they're probably trying to figure out
How do we get these people out
What what
Tactics
Can we use
Without you know
Creating is eventually you know
I know one instant woman who is yuno fell in the Stampede
Yeah and I think that was
Outside
When they are trying to get in there you could see the police there just standing there in the background
Or someone there gave that they wanted him like a bottle of water. Yeah just sort of an odd dynamic
There were a lot of police officers salted but I was sort of interesting I don't think I saw any assaulted
We were in the way there wasn't gratuitous violence for bio
Yeah so that that person there is telling me that stone was has been shot or shots were fired I guess
She said I don't know if I believe it yeah
The rumors are sort of making their way through at that point
Well I was going to remark by now if it is 250
Then in the last 10 minutes is when Ashley bad it had been
Shot and killed I believe
And so would make sense that the police are standing down
Yeah I mean I guess I don't I don't know how much communication was it there was between the police officers
I just got to see that guy has a Los Angeles Times helmet
LA Times
Yeah isn't that I think that's what it said on the back of that white helmet
Someone says looks like they were establishing a
Perimeter to keep
Anyone else
Out
Plus it's hard to reason with mob yeah I mean yeah this is again I don't know
There's no Playbook
At least that officers have been completely
Free rental income
Yeah I know so
Diving here that the people sort of inside the little entrance room
At one point they're like trying to get healed of back out sounds they could try to like kick down the door
But they're at their efforts to break and we're not successful
Fortunately for Triforce leave for them
As well as for the people inside
Recite believe there were no agents have guns right on the other side of that door
Right and know somebody hit ass
Do you dare to speculate
What would have happened
Had the mob encountered number Congress and so forth in
And I think that
Ultimately get home
So I asked him what he said in the podcast but you know
Weiner
Taking that chance of of
A elected representative having to face the mob like that you just you don't know
In out what
What the mob would be capable
When coming face-to-face with their
With your adversary because the mob is always influenced by their
Worse
Depends
If you have somebody in there
That is psychologically unhinged or two come out
Okay
Yeah
So
That's what I've noticed when it comes to the
Madness
That inflicts mob is that is that
It really comes down to
Sometimes
One person's personality
One person can
Have great influence
I in
Escalating chaos
And so
Not really you know and I've talked to many people who say no
It really they understand why lethal round
Were deployed because
I was sort of surprised that more lethal round for not deployed
This could have been
For all of it
In a large scale
Chaos and
Could have been even worse
Course
Now you're in what room is this everything
Quiet about statuary Hall
Just started between the Rotunda
And that the
House of Representatives
I was just listening to
Quiet it down because
People recovering amounts yeah and I think the crowd had thinned out some I think they'd sort of
Tanzimat spread into various rooms
CNC here like some police officers and they're making their way through this crowd at least
You know Siri
Like there weren't people in the crowd being like hey get those police officers that are walking through
Tell Jess strange design a Mac
Attacking police officers one minute not attacking them
Because they were
That's an interesting point
They were attacking when they were impediment
But if they weren't
Impediment
Then they weren't attacking police
Yeah
Is that is that accurate yeah so it's so right here in this chamber
Terrence I don't think you see if there's a police officer the top of the stairs and you can see like there's a couple oathkeeper sort of standing around
I've a police officer I believe he had a rifle and he he looked very agitated
Like he was about to start shooting and Saudis like 3 or so
I believe their Oath Keepers there and like the military gear they're sort of like keeping the crowd back
No
Fantasy events going on
Is that why
Okay so the audio hear the audio share got very off
Is that German ever an outdoor
Where's the nearest a couple minutes off at this isn't Pelosi's office
Orwell this is obvious nexters I know the next one is hers I'm not sure if this one is hers or not
Psychiatrist certainly
That's a guy that's yeah he got arrested for that
Yeah like psychic business when I saw like there is a live shot of the crowd outside and I was like oh
The police outside
There's that they're outside but then there's still the seats crowd here
The metal to her
Even so
There's like a broken mirror there
You said don't break your you're a very
Don't break the office here at your boy scout sensibilities aren't for showing through
That was really interesting to see that guy who so famously
Took a selfie of himself
We're taking a shoot sorry wrong button
Can I just go forward or back
I think we're back where we were
Are we entering the office again
Fufu food
I think it's sort of like a sweet so I think we're moving through to a different
Rumans offices
Okay now I think the audio is sink backup I'm not sure what happened with that one part
That's you saying don't break it again
Yeah yeah that's that's the same I'm not sure how the audio there got messed up
Back atcha
Who's that who's I got it I left you just standing there
I don't know I didn't notice some of the time they're these flag sitting here that we're like draped on the floor
South American that I am I actually picked them up and leave them against the wall
Okay
That was a moment here we're obviously you're there is a journalist you're
Tell me when you went into the office or
Weather
What was your what were your feelings
I noticed I was just documenting what was going on
Like I've been quiet like you know if you would protest any quite a few where I know I'm protest
Testing for something and this is not the type of
Cycle events
You know I don't think there's any point where I was like yeah no let's go guys this is great
Because I was just so
Do aliens I was just I was just documenting it just
For toddler
Solaris Honda SLC like outside right Gathering Spot some of the people who had moved through previously.
Came back and we're Gathering here
Someone said that white helmet before was LA Times printed on it with their standard Masthead
Helmet cam on it
That sounded like just a basic megaphone siren
Nothing much
Do you wonder why if there are maybe it's connected that sprinkler system you know how when strobe lights are any
Yes there are some people here I believe there there's like that
That one officer the top of the stairs with sort of The Oath Keepers protecting him
Another police officer said get there but there aren't people just yelling at him
Tag and I sent him for whatever reason
So I'm not sure
But that police out if that police out of their did something to that the fewer especially mad about
I just sort of walked by at twice or something
SF going on
Lego.com
It's not up in love right now
That's interesting
Nothing there
So amazing how candid
People not wearing mask walking right by
How candid and out in the open they were about enough
Venus
Yeah
Looks like the website
Looks like website isn't even our own because it says you can still get the domain
I don't know if that guy's deal was actually it says the domain is taken but you my
Might be able to get it for $100
Incarnate
Amateur says I've been in a lot of demos inside of our state capital this
Ain't no Insurrection barely a riot with exception of breaking the glass
Well once you get in yeah once you once you've entered
But the rioting and interrupting was necessary to get
To this point where where everybody's just Milling about
Yeah
Ian. When we are twin
Rihanna's under like in the basement of the Rotunda there was a lot of fighting there was going
I'm back
Is that the police line Vape they finally broke through that police line
I bet there's some other videos from from other journalists like at capturing the actual fighting
Yeah floor plans
Corey came
Sherwood
I've been hitting I think what you were saying as you might have been mentioning the exit
Hell. Yeah I do not tell her that accident is
Weekend immediate is jumped on this and tried to say though they knew and he actually took my video
Yokai
Atlantic I got
Got pepper sprayed or something
Burning
Sorry about that
Yes I think this guy in the green hat years about to us
I passed out some marijuana
I think one of the journalist
Got a picture of it I think it was Richie McGinnis got it yet picture
Some of these guys lighting up token in the in the capital
Lighten up. Accusured of
Yeah it again if you look at video from Richie McGinnis
From
Brendan Beatty on the scene
You'll see the defeat of it when they push when
Police lines were English drive and Dunn Elijah Schaffer show
In his video which I mentioned earlier that was about 12:53 p.m. when they go through the first day
So
As much speculation is coming out I don't think I think what your video shows is
What a long process this way
And
Yeah I didn't even from like that at 12:50 until
I saw it until they proquant the capital wear and I followed them in around
2:10 or 2:15 I think that was the New York Times their investigation and I was like got an hour
Hour and 20 minutes from you know the first line being breached
The capital of South being breached
It just caught was that
Food to eat to the camera and I thought I'd made it myself so I have
Had some issues but I did not I do not cut anything out it's just
It didn't record for the couple frames there whatever
How much I miss you
Yasser bad to see it get crazy
Is it the part that you also have video of
Corner but I think I I think I actually know press the stop recording button as I reached around
That I didn't actually end up catching anything more with my phone or do I have one other quick of
Yes they are fighting with each other and then
Actually climb up on the basement statue here cuz he can even see it sort of goes
No there's like like some pans being thrown
Pushing match
Craftsman garage door
Yes they actually they actually managed to push the police back into this call away I was in
Able to capture what went what went on inside the hallway
But they were able to push this police line back a little by Sarah's there's a staircase
Back behind those officers and and some lobsters came up to reinforce then and there
Eventually able to sort of 3 game controller this entrance that's your phone your
We all share that video at the end
Tattoo right now
What are the police trying to do here with us
Holding that I don't
So I think that accident living on the opposite side but they were at their sort of ISS
Maybe I sort of keeping people from from moving through this entrance there
Depending on how you look at it but there's a stairway behind them
Reinforces maybe they didn't
Yeah so someone yelled at me to get off the statue out of standing on two to film from
I believe I just wanted one of the one of the people in the crowd
I want of the people in the crowd yeah yeah
Indominus Rex
Hear someone say don't be disrespectful
Property
Yeah my group was more
Destructive in there yeah I'm guessing that the people would have been a little more willing
Do you know destroy particular Congressman congressman's office
Rather than to destroy like a statue that is that feels more collectively owned
I know if that makes sense
I think it does
When you are the the group that I was where
While trying to create a barricade by tearing apart in office
I think that guy
It's a very different feel than the quote-unquote venerated Hall
Yeah I'm modern office purses
Comes out of the same budget in the end yes it different
Attitude I guess
Somebody says it's a real really big building I've been inside there before 9/11 when you you
Used to be able to walk around 3 minutes
Yeah I'm the whole thing I said thing and Insurrection or not it's like
There you can't you can't overthrow the US government by
I occupy any anyone building
What's up with the idea that that they could have possibly overthrowing the government is sort of absurd
I think it's a riot let me know the definition of insurrection I'll read it
Very funny
Observation is at the anarchist actually weigh in
Anarchist
Or that about you not assume I don't I think I'll just a conversation I overheard
I don't know what's going on there
Insurrection is defined as a violent Uprising against the authority or government
So
I think you can use the word answer with that definition I guess
I usually think of it more like an attempt to overthrow or take power
It's just something that's against the government then yeah sure insurrection
Spell the word that is misused I think there's a coup a coup is a sudden
Violent in El Lugar seizure of power from the government and usually don't have to.
Bob the media and the military so
Option
Or Rebellion might be accurate
Who
It is not in the people who make this point
Are the inner I have been following a lot of kind of luck
Leftist Anarchist history and recent history from the eighties and nineties and do the mm
And1 Anarchist name
Peter gelderloos who is critical of my work
That beat documented the black lot
Had something interesting to say is something going on here
Trying to leave to the rotunda at that one engine to the Rotunda.
Ebenezer holding for the fight and lavender soda please coming in from Another Side as well so
Okay no let's get out of here this is the door right here it's friendly sort of
Block with people
The anarchist take is interesting because you're sorry
The grab-bag they try to stay while they do succeed and shutting the doors
As if people are trying to come out
Are you hitting them for they I saw them like
Haggai in the back of the head with a baton as he was trying to squeeze through the door if they're like no hitting in the back
Time to go through and I think a police officer had just like told him I take it out of here then I'll he's getting out
They start hitting him with a baton but I think that's one thing.
Police officers at the door and then there's another police officer to back in the hallway and I was like there
Getting conflicting messages to the crowd
There was a protest sign
Sing please give me water
Yeah a lot of people had encountered
I tear gas or pepper spray at some point
Yeah yeah so just shut the doors that the police at the Dorset feel like I think the guy saying on the stairs
One of the people who had been saying like me get out
But then the police to asador like shut the door that you are trying to get out
Free anarchistankh points out that who is an incorrect work
Erica said this isn't even close to it. Because you need all these points of power 2
The Consolidated whether it's the media or the military and
In this case this crowd had wasn't even really realistic lean Pro
Yes I'm not sure if the police officers open the doors willingly or if they were
Open
Play I can see that the doors are open and I think most of those people were able to exit
I like those who wanted to
I wonder why they maybe it's a psychological thing of no you can't go out so then people wanted to go out
Yeah I am there were people coming up to the door like they wanted to get out
Amanda before the police shot them cuz I'm starting to feel like the police were
We're boxing them in the Rotunda
TNT
Okay
Yeah I didn't see them
Yeah so this is the opposite side of the capital I came in front
Yeah so this is
I don't know I just saw them I didn't keep telephone that climbing up the stairs I think John has sang it
Broke both his legs
Pollard
Yeah so why don't you think thing is there were like so that you can see the protesters are like
You know on the on the porch like on both ends sort of which doctor decides or groups of police off
I don't know if you got to catch a glimpse of bad
Are the riot cops that are on the edge of the porch they're not protecting anything else like they have been sort of sides
So somebody comment
But I'm the only journalist point out the anarchist no one else touch it despite what the black Bloc
Why is that a reference to other
Riot certainly you wait there are some black Bloc people here but for all that we know
Are apart of the popular but I was pointing out that
I'm yeah
Nice epochal
You know her name you know her name so we can check later
Just secondhand okay well you sure don't want to see it on the mainstream media
Agency that
Hey we got this
So this time I think I'm down below I had come up to the scaffolding and they're gone
About to go live. And it was the same thing people knew if somebody got shot
But they didn't trust the media they didn't trust anything any information
And you wonder if the video of it didn't exist
If people wouldn't have believed it
Yeah yeah
But that's why I think we do have the ability to get to the truth no
In this age of misinformation
Yeah so these are oath keepers bringing a
Don who is injured I don't know what the injury was
Hey so that's how it's going down the stairs
That's taken a bit of like the guy they're tearing down sort of
I don't know
I don't I don't know what his injury was
Listen to sky at the Capitol
The guy I interviewed said he launched the agitation on
The media pack he said quote I went down with a couple of Patriots or whatever it was
And that's not exactly said he gathered Patriots she went down and sit at the quote was I abdicated the crown
What is T. Guide
That's interested
Did you see people accusing
Developing antifa like that
Yeah so actually going to see John Sullivan
I think that might like you been who he was talking to
Jasmine Johnson
At Sullivan
Cashew 367 to video chat
Hilarious
Google logo
Yes they're basically
I don't know I think he like he was saying some other than shot they're accusing him of maybe spreading misinformation and
Clearing that up
And they also point out that he's wearing all black and has not ripped repping trout right
Yeah yes I think I think they were talking to him that sound like I was over a megaphone maybe but yeah I think they
They're talking to him there
At one point he sort of opened his jacket and and show that he had like that
Some sort of bulletproof vests or plate carrier
With Express on Italy how they have the letters but it was no covered up by his jacket what's the time
He wasn't showing yet
Wow I wasn't expecting to see salaverry
WhatsApp
I haven't seen that part
Yeah I mean I I did not know who it was until I saw him on the news later like oh
Cuz you know it when they first arrested him they let him go cuz there's like I knows filming then they are viewed
The footage and we're like you're doing a little more than filming
Yeah. amazing footage by-the-way great-great guest you know
It
Having this in one
Hey
Experiential take to be able to watch a real Tanya
Speech part of History
Check again
Kalopsia
These days they may not necessarily believe it you know nothing
Equality
Experiential feel that you get
Watching this straight
For 2 hours
It's much different
Any headline you look at or any analysis or pundit it's telling you what you should
When you get to see it like this you can at least make your own mine up and maybe people will understand
Why
When we're like myself could understand why everything was about Ray
When I got
Yeah to my client is like
You know you saw John Sullivan there you know I talked to was it how you are
He said his name was
Like UNC like black people
Brown people
You know and I didn't see any of them like get her ass sore or yelled racial slurs that I was just
Like maybe the people were if they were white nationalist they were pretty good at hiding it
You know it
They're their fellow you know riders or not white
But the big question is what is the real
White supremacy quotient how do we know that ask this of the Southern Poverty Law Center and they refuse to answer
Question.
Made their assessment
In
February
In there
The Southern Poverty Law Center Center
That January 6th Donald Trump inside Bob that included the hate
An anti-government groups the proud Boys The Oath Keepers in the three percenters to storm the US Capitol
An Insurrection to maintain
White supremacy
That's the Southern Poverty Law Center
And in their press
I challenge
First of all I am I've been waiting for the better part of a year to get comments
On left-wing Pilots that I would
That's without agenda it's only because I witnessed hate on the left I want comment about it
But for them to characterize this
And not be able to tell us what that what that determination is based on
How did you come to the
Determination
Did those groups were acting out of hate
Why
And into that this was an Insurrection to maintain white supremacy
That does not seem
Like solid journalistic methodology
All I am asking for
Alarm 58 show me the receipt dinner show us where and how you made that determination
Because what happened
Is that we be talking points went out in the 2 p.m. our people were
Activists were cherry-picking trying to make this about white supremacy
And I challenge to that
Can I still challenge it and I just ask
For people to show ever
Maybe I'm Wrong look
I'm
Showing you this video and I showed you an actual admitted white now that we're going to see at the
The megaphone earlier open mic in a second
But
I am still asking
Bathroom Yanni
Do will when we see him is there evidence that he
What did you say antifa barrage Street dealignment antifa better than us
Okay
I thought that's an odd statement
And maybe maybe doesn't the contact says I'm having shot someone I don't know
When we get into these open mic
In the day of adversity our strength is not
Rhinoceros paraphrase of a Bible verse
Thank you
Is a funny comment the amount of custom Trump patches black etcetera is truly amazing for so much.
Diversity
That's a that's a funny joke
Strong people
Audio might be off
Amen
That guy you can worm
City of North Dakota on a small built Barn Steakhouse and we are struggling
Take my liquor license 360 audio
Send it video
Let me see.
Okay. We're hearing from the next time
The bar
Have you had enough to
Have you been inside how was that we didn't go in
Dangerous I didn't see it myself
Heard second-hand from someone who said they thought they stopped coming they saw someone coming out
Supposedly splattered with her blood so I don't know I can't tell
Brea from North Carolina
Fat in my face
Find ideas to oxidize the person who I gave like a Band-Aid to I think you'll see on the video in a minute
Yeah I don't know what's going on with audio
I like to say a prayer partner congressman and Senators today who are here trying to defend us
Your families are being friendly Thursday Keys being threatened and they can't hide their identity ever
Everybody knows who it is
Josh Hawley for Missouri is Senator the first Saturday to stand up and say I am going to take it on
His home is being vandalized as of yesterday and found a Ruger safe and so I just want to say a prayer
Dear Lord I pray for Senator Josh Hawley I pray for our congressmen or senators and I pray
But they may be strengthened they may be able to Bear the cross and bear the burden without has given them knowing they're doing their brights
Lord Lord in the name of Jesus Christ amen
What's up what's up what's up USA USA
The guy
Simultaneously
You occupy the building
Stop what they were doing they had to evacuate liquid complete their session should have topless
Deposit
And I'm going to play
I'm here in McHenry
USA USA USA
I'd like to thank everyone here for the bottom Tire
What's little left because I am mad
We're going to be heard
Don't we better wake up people this is our battle this is our Revolution
You need a bandage I have a first aid kit
Get out
Oh my God
I was taught that freedom is to do whatever you want
Gonna wipe it off with one of these before
Without being penalized
Diamond out here on this microphone there a lot of people talking about the pandemic response
Affection
What are Fritos
Fifth Third building get most of it I don't have a really big one
Thank you this is an open mic if you have a few words you like to say message you would like to share dishes and
What's her skirt up to deal with her skirt
Violets can do it I think that's what it is
You're going to say
Show me pictures for the New World Order
Okay I want to say we're friends
The top cream in Singapore so we could get
That's the thing I can go on it
Seriously
I think so
Today
You occupied the building
What they were doing they had to evacuate complete their session problems
Want to go up there
A lot more cops today are they entitled to Guatemalan radio pushing people coming over
They are put in a 6 p.m. curfew
And a lot of people wanted her place at 6 p.m. and fingers Campero
What is absolutely
Crestwood
God bless you
Thunderball
This is an office like if you have a message if you want to practice public speaking if you wanted
Do anything to Trade Center inside go ahead and come on up and share your message
We got one right here we go
The Reagan Ranch very proud to be here I was in the first wave of the sitter
Hey look at that play United States of America
Organization under God
Indivisible with liberty and justice for all
Along with volcanoes and there's no discussion in the Middle School
Kids know that we believe in you
Thank you for all eternity or value such a Doctrine dating environment
Cincinnati Ohio
That guy
Is the quieter voice you heard just that I couldn't tell he was dying
Thank you so much thank you
Department of few more words from another Patriot
Graham factors
She was looking through a window
There's a rumor that they hit her with the Baton that's a lie I smell the gunpowder
What the f***
They shot her with live round through a window from at least 20 feet away
We have the footage is going to be spread everywhere okay
Watch the news or strings Ramen okay soon enough that footage will be coming out disseminated all right
But we do have
Double pane glass window in Orlando blood arterial blood
Gunpowder store
After they busted the window busted we I didn't
I know it's busted out and they shot her through the open window
Well she was standing next to two Capitol police officers
Police officer disclose standing right next to her
Decided shooter through a window
One more thing
Then they told us that they weren't bringing her out until we left
And I told him there's a hundred thousand people behind me I can't backup I'm almost getting trampled
Huaraches can't go anywhere until y'all leave
They could open the doors and took her
Do the doors were all the other people are evacuating through
They wouldn't do it
Government abuse of power there the public servants
We the people need to demand our servants start acting like servants are from another pantry
Have you started saying it like guy the National Socialist guy is sort of like you were saying
Stream Dundee live
I know the way
Not be able to
Elections okay everybody wants to point even the Integrity of America and help their vote
Integrity
The transparency of our American election right now even the longest.
Show me he was a streamer
Do not ignore people
What divides people
And if we get up all these are elections that we don't have to
I think it might be a link of the split that the sound gets off
2 hour clip
Storehouse
Whorehouse
You have a right to protest
Civil Disobedience everyone is here today
Which one's the truth prevail
Whatever that is
That's all we want
God Bless America
America right now responding to
Response to something other than is going on
The other politicians who have sold out their families are not spare not safe we must depend on
God protect him and for us protective we are in trouble Patriots
No truer words have ever been said
We are in trouble our nation stands at a crossroad how much different is it than likely
Concord
The Brits are coming
Did those guys run
No
I'm not saying I don't even know anybody here what to do
Rhinovirus
Those stairs over there on the other side that young lady did get shot
We were there
2050 Hiner
Do you know something
If she dies she died for the cause of freedom
Stupid I'm not a singer
Well I'm going to sing this
Remember Twisted Sister
We're not gonna take it anymore
Everybody
Where you at
Anymore come on
This is the America I remember
God bless yet we're still a country
Let him take it
Three things that we have the right
The First Amendment the right
Freedom of speech
Read AAA Assemble
And a redirect
Yeah so you can see here there's a police officer wearing a Maga hat
Weeding out the cops and riot gear wish I mean I think that
It made the news that there's a police officer put on a Maga hat but Siri can be huge I believe it was
Those police officers have been sort of trap to this side Maybe
Those are also waiting right here but you can see there's some some of the guys in military gear store
Escorting ban
Adventuresome
And like yeah there's that one guy like yelling at them violating the Constitution but then I think you ought to see other people saying like that
Thank you
Yeah I saw that is well I stop people yelling
Oathbreaker
And then some people saying thank you
Another playing the song with the correct lyrics
We are not
Twisted Sister yes that's right
You dropped your glasses
Who are you talking to their
I'm not sure don't who drops her glasses I suppose
I think videos that woman who just saw a side of reach down
Rving
What escorted through
Yeah
Yes it so there is to the officer leading them wearing that the Maga hat she was not
And ride your buddies like I don't know 10 or so guys
Eyewear and Rideshare being let out this is hard to see but there's another group that went to
2 * / last if you're facing the side
That sort of walk off to the side which I didn't see as much as I think you'll catch that
Caleb and Levi
I'm not sure they're going to see the tire there is flattened
Wish a little bit woozy sound letting air out of the tires
Where's that first day that there are /
But I thought so and I was like a multi-tool in that little air valves letting air out
Thought that I didn't finish was at the anarchist
When
In a podcast with saying that the word insurrection
That even using that word these are terms that are near and dear
To us
Indiana casino
Because actually
The word insurrectos
Is how
Start of the
Old school
Okay I'm going to jinx
Yeah I just sound like a half-full bottle of water and I sorta wanted to wash the tear gas out of my mouth
Yeah I think at that point you just take what you can get
Dakota
Kobe Bryant but you know
But as always saying yes so the they used to
Anarchist
Would call themselves insurrectos and use that use insurrectionist kind of the rallying cries
For it to be now used for
The right-wing
There was discussion within the anarchist
Community that
This was
Hey wait a minute
Yeah appropriation of cultural symbols
Political operations
But
Their conclusion
What's the term Riot is correct
And specifically
The anarchist said this should be looked at so white
Riot
So I can that takes us.
Full circle to the
Social justice race
Talking point which comes from not only the Press but from the anarchist
Yeah I know it is certainly was predominantly white in makeup
Syosset you want to say it's a white riot
In terms of that composition of the rioters Audi
Generally accurate but not wholly accurate
Leaving even tube
I think we need to be parsed is
Yes of an actually looked at the statistics and it's in the 90% as far as
White males
Among the arrested
Those were right
Those were the very
Starting point
Spearhead
If duet
Yeah I did not
Like outside I guess you saw
I think there are more women In This Crowd outside here than there were like inside the capitol
Right there were some but very
And yeah
Yeah I grew up there was a an older lady
Who is Annette
Surprisingly
Like a grandma
And some of the first people in that I interviewed
Said they were called pray praying grandma
Was the name of their
Facebook
In
They were very
Open about that they've gone in
Capital
Yeah
I need terms of like
Like to know there's that one guy
To who you know you interview later whose no
Daddy was an extreme a star and sympathizes National Socialist thank you said
I got here's on the mic since I can see everything of them
Or maybe the girl who is saying like chump formaspace forced to fight off the aliens is she right
Anti-alien riot
That's a good point which is can you just take one person
And there
Stream of consciousness
Batshit
Whatever that coming out of their their mouth and characterize the entire group
Can you really
And that's why I keep pressing
The Southern Poverty Law Center because they have influence over the so they say that everything is about white supremacy
Well then the Press is going to run with it
But if they can't provide any evidence of that
Well then we have to stop
Rewind the tape and look at the whole thing in my opinion
And that's a very good point why are we why are we fixating on you know all the other the Viking guide
Does get a lot of attention because he's qanon
But the qanon guy qanon shaman
The national socialists and the space alien space force woman
Are all in the same sort of
You know outlier
Krowd
And to just take one of them and cherry-picked them to characterize with essential Therapies
Yeah
Yeah yeah the Harrison
Yeah listen percent
Well even comparing the techniques and letting the air out as opposed to slashing the tires is certainly a more
Pacifistic yeah and I think
He even made a comment I don't know if I was recorded but they see like
You know like we own these tires
I mean it's it it goes back to the Velvet
The Velvet Rope thing of walking
Into the capital and staying inside the lines of the Velvet Room
You know
Creating late letting out the are the tires it supposed to flashing them
There are these sort of
Differences
In techniques when there are also similarities when it comes to
Using
Pedestrian In-N-Out
Club Czar or flagpoles r or
NRA resaw bricks that there's no
You wouldn't see those
Thrown we did see a fire
Finishing around
And the fire extinguisher that you captured different than the fire extinguisher that of course everybody
That was about which was
The hoax
For the hope that you might be referring to is the moment that office
Yeah yeah either there are thrown at butt
Didn't tell him
Right and do we know if officer sicnic was actually hit by the
The
The fire extinguisher because I don't even know I'm thinking nah
Yeah he texted his his brother afterwards and said
Like I'm okay I got no I got sprayed a couple times
Laden should have to get hit pretty hard in the head to not mention it to his brother like to forget
Like yeah I also got bashed in the head but I'll just mention I was pepper-sprayed
Right right
Is the Omission in other words is is alcohol taken
And
You know again this comes from Twitter you find
You find a clip like that
112 if you are a keyboard Warrior
You take that and then you marry it
Where the information that an officer has died
And then you just
You just spit it out there
And as I said in the intro
The LIE will travel around the world when the truth is still lacing up his shoes without 888
There's no better Axiom that can describe what we're living through right
And with Twitter your travels really fast
Yeah over there what's up
And I'm not sure if I'm I don't know who this specifically referring to
But I know where there are several people I saw in your like in the guy who has helped down to stats
Other people look like that got a face full of chemicals
I've seen people like that till right when I was on the other side man
How much is Patriots just took the capital
This is about coming up 4 p.m. actually because the timestamp is off
And
At this point I'm on the other side
Reporting
And the other group will want to go in within the hour
Yes this area over here
You know it when I first came out there bunch of police officers there but the heaven sword IV no guys out through the crowd worth
No there those ryuk Hots leaving at
On one side and sort of the rest of the police
Lefton and walked out another way
You think
It's about throwing rocks
Yeah when she got shot
Thank God he's skipping for some reason
Yeah and if you're just joining us if we're playing a 2-hour clip
So it's skipping in the
The audio displacement s2i
Think with
How
The streaming service is dealing with such a long to our club
Electrifying the steel is real
Yes I think that video is just that over
Alright enjoy a walk somewhere and then turn it off
So what we've seen roughly is between
2 p.m. and 4 p.m.
Yes
And
At the Capitol
Starting on the Westside
And ending on the Eastside
And
There were that person just had something in his hand that looks like a picture frame
Don't stop a wall
I noticed that before
Right here
Yeah yeah
I don't I can't tell us on it but it looks like it might be stolen
Chick-fil-A
Souvenir
Wow that's what I was like
I was kind of intense to watch in the sense that
You really
Get the feeling
That you're there
But you're
But you're in it
And
And write down
Below to the edge of the grass
That's sort of where
I was able to get a signal
Undo my life
And
I was on the other side
And then
Made my way
Up
And somehow I kept the signal
And my life show
Where you see the video of the bullhorn lady
It's really fragmented
Itself
Until I get inside
And all of a sudden when I'm in the Congressional office
It just seems that my group
With much more
Riotous
Stanislas group innocence
My group
That I was
I want to call him Mike
Group the group with which I would that which I was talking
Once
They got in
They did start destroying things whereas
The mask
Wednesday God
Didn't seem too
Dirsync there seem to be a kind of
Code
You know get down from there or don't
Statter
You know yeah
I like
Asos first
Laika in the basement door attended there's like you know that the display that I think I was maybe a map of Washington
DC recycling tall buildings
Do that and there were some other instances like you know someone yelled at me.
Get off the statue that I was standing under film from
Icci
I need as I send and Pelosi's office I saw the cat I didn't see someone break the mirror but I saw him here those bro
Broken by even even
By and large it look like they had
Like ransacked your office
Go to Safeway
For about a thousand people that were
Where in there
You know
And it did
I'm surprised at the lack
For the amount of time
I expect
Courtesy
Some ranch
But I think maybe that explains why media went so hard with my van
Because my video
Did Sharon
So
They loved it
And even though I said no
To all of you
You cannot use
They took it
And
And I am realizing why
Because
Display
Company C
Corporation
Have so much money
That one guy
You know
Just stealing Steel the video if it's important
Ask question
Translator
And
No pat on the back
And they know how hard it is
Representation
The loop gif
To go through in
That's said I appreciate you sharing
Your
Expensive
But to the public
Like really as a public service
Because that
What
That's akin to what
I've been trying to
Would you just get
Steve
What the reality is a holistic view of what happened
And be able to discuss
Because yeah
That takes you out
Of the usage
Cuz that's what they want
They want you
All of these Corp
Even in the word they want to use
Your work
I want to use you
Innocence
And so
My
I denied you
You know
Must be here
I was submitting pieces that I had written
With very little in
Because I think a lot of people
I was one of these people who had
In Media
And
Thought that
People were over react
When it came to
Imposition of narrow
I thought that was
How that was an ovary
Well once you you know
You're outside of your job
And you're doing this
Time in the world
And you can
Investigate on your own
Then you see
That
Wow
What when you're there in your experience
What's being rich
Doesn't matching
Doesn't matter
Experian
That would my video was stolen
What was extremely
Was it the companies weren't even interested
In talking to me
They were interested in the usage
A few of them had questions here and there what time did the
That's an obvious one
But for the most part
They weren't interested in my
And they gave me that very
Clear they were interested in getting the video
And combining it with other
So that they could propel
A
Annika more exciting
Story
My video
Adam ransacking Yahoo
Appeared
On CNN under headline
It said us says Capital riot
Plan
To assassinate
Encapture elected
As you can see by your your your two hours of
Not only were there very long
Very little
If much
Planning
But that
Certainly is a very speculative
Yeah
So for my video to have been used for the
I found
I pretty
Tequila Ley August I use the word
I am not offended much
And I make that clear by it
When people have that much power
And they can just
Take things
And even when you say no
Resided to Siena
Can we use this video
No
They used it
And
When I text
I texted the guy who had approached
Richmond
The producers
Can I said
I want to make this clear
You cannot use
Stayed up
I think it's probably still up to
So so we're weird word dealing with a kind of
Mediator radicalmedia
Avelino
That will just take what they want
And they're not doing journalism
They're not talking to
To you
Batumi
Or to the people that
That were there
They want
To ride
Ascertain
Way
And I think we need to hold
Media Carnival we have to
Demanda se
Hey
We we saw thing
We didn't see guns that's another trending topic
From Twitter was arm
Insurrection
3
Gun arrest within the
Vicinity that we're not
Necessarily on
So when we say
This is what we saw
I think
We need to keep saying
Because what's being written
And
What's being emotional
Through Twitter
Does not matter
Unless you can show me
And that's what I'm open to
Show me the proof
Show me the the
The
You know
The other debts and we can
Mega parts that so I appreciate you
Providing
No two hours of footage that we could look at
And break down and talk about any could see even from my cultural
I was looking for Germanic letters
That's how
Ingrained it is
For someone like me to look at
The crowd from the right
And just be like
Where are the Nazi
Makena
That's just
Applied thinking
As opposed to
What's going on
What are the
People
Upset about why do they feel this
What are they
What are the complaints the Grievances over over
I covid
You know and
Is there anything that
Might you think might have been left out
That media hasn't understood about the
The character
Or the Grievances
Of that crap
As we
As I came down
I sort of
Was
Remark Inc
I didn't see any of this being about
Race and then I get to my
Rental car
I get my signal
And I look on my social media
And everybody's
Yeah
And I think that the code restrictions wish I know a couple of people on the mic or talking about
I think that definitely played a role and I don't think there is
Any year other than 2020 where this would have happened
I guess you sort of have the general
SSI General economic situation where you had no riots
You know all throughout the year I think that played into his time as well as people
Upset with the government specifically
For the government's response was probably something a little a little different Dynamic than you had in most the riots
Happened
And
I would say also going into it there is this
Frustration with the police and this this perception that the police
Are upholding Law and Order
So I think the people there felt like they were representing Law and Order more than the police that they were
Fighting words
And
You know when they probably end up going to prison the find that is not the case that the police
I Jes
Sitting back all the time and
You're not caring as riots happen
Well then that brings up a really
Because you said
All of this in regards
Covid
The others
Of course is
Black lives matter
Civil unrest
And what is
Perceived
Antiphon
Is a monolithic
As opposed to how I see
First
Group
Activist group
Movement therapy
NFL line
Groups
But
There is idea
That
Other another part of the
And was able to
To get away with
Tomorrowland
Disorder
I think
Creeps up we
Heard Aunt aforementioned
A couple time
And I thought
Back in December
Assign
That was held at one of these rallies
What they're called the million Mega mart
It sent now
We're up
And we was Kappa
And that was after the election
Heather has distorted so just as much as you ask your
Well if this happen
To do with covid
All yes
Other stuff
How much also does it have
With civil unrest
And being
Part of a holistic
Feeling
Of the times
Where people
Are feeling
That this is
This is what we can do
And we know we can do it cuz somebody else
So now we're going
And yeah how did you hear antifa mentioned much right I heard it a couple
And yeah probably a few times you know
As always in the video sort of I guess there is no one present they like they treat BLM in Antelope badder than
West you know some people
Sam heughan disputed by
You know it when they're I don't know if you're in DC earlier in the summer when there are the riots but it certainly seemed
At least I wasn't there but from the media coverage of seem like
They were
More harsh and summer guards like with the amount of troops they had out there but I also think they didn't
Shoot any of those protesters
That sort of like
Which which ones worth having one person get shot or having a lot of people get tear gas
You know it is
It brings up
This sort of
Unknown
Kwebbelkop
Which is
2
Is wrong
More
And I think
That
That kind of bugged me because I
When I was coming down the hill the first
I saw
That was the first time
I got service
And I've told the story how an activist journalist
Was saying if this were people of color
They would have been already shot
With Library
And then of course within the hour
Somebody was
But
I think we get
And not. Kind and I was always sort of
Tweeting out into the universe hey there's more going on
Okay
It's your right to have that inter
I think
If there's more going on
Do we have to
And the Chicago
The Chicago
Which is printed by the Atlanta
The Atlantic
Also said
There's more going on
We have to figure out
This is not the same Democrat
You also saw that how how much older
People were in
Yeah
Atlantic Beach
Business owners
Is a very different
Situation.
What we
Have come
To think of
As right-wing extremism
And
I've had other shows with other journalists were we talked about
About this even being different from the Charlottesville
In a crowd
Adoration
So-so
Just trying to get people to
Actually be journalist
And ask who who is there
What was going on
And then figure out
What
We need to
To do
To moderate
Is it country
I think it's a topic that
Hutch and not.
That makes me want to actually fight harder
To talk to people
But it makes me
Ask why
Why not try to get
Us
To moderate why are we compared
Carrying
Constant
People
Grievances
Yeah like this and this is not like this
And
You can when you see that
Clip playout
For 2 hours
It's not like
Anything
It's not like anything
In my life
And
I think it.
Regarding
That this is this was
A1
Sort of
Like historical
Play music
Figure out why it how
Happened
Who is there
How to not make it
How to not let it
Happen again
Just as we should try to figure out
You know
The civil unrest at the end of
Man in
Question try to figure out
What you know who is there
And how we can moderate
And I think that's the the
Depress
It's not letting us do that
The Press is insisting
That
We
It Go to
Start of battle
What's on social media
Day
Easter day
Kind of try to hit at each other
And rally are
Small little try
For the sake of
Of likes and click
Sexing this and that
Yeah that's that's a more useful narrative
For many people who are poor sort of crafting the narrative
That
Oh
You know I'm the one hand look at all these people who got away with the writing all summer and then on the other hand look these
Evil almost overthrew the government
Eastern herdez is attractive
On a different side to be like hey
Look at all this important stuff happening and you really need to read our newspaper watch Army Tire darts
Because we're going to tell you what's really happening and you better watch because it's important
But it takes time here we are two months later
And we know a lot now
That if we had played that video
Three days after
Well you know we probably wouldn't have the same impression
Overall
But we have a lot more information
That we that we can park
We know
Some of the demographic
Who is there again
That figure that only one in ten
Of the arrestees now that
The 300
Only one in ten belonged
To a militia or a group
The proud boys
So now that we know that
Andweknow
The article in the Atlantic
Taco project
We have to try to figure this out
And obviously they were brought together
Around.
That movement.
So I can just disappear you can deep Lot 4
And pull people off Sissy
Show me that all you want
If if your
You do that you're not under
Standing
A nature
Not Justa of America
Just a nature
Humans
That if you take
Their voice away
And say
You are
This
And everybody who
Two platforms this or does that
Needs to be silent
They're only going to
2
Go to the further corners
If they're extremists of the encrypted web the dark web or wherever
And become more in Rage
So
Acknowledging what
Happened house
Happened
Is
Big step for us
What is a country
And to my knowledge
We have not acknowledged
What
Has happened
Happened
In the last year
Yeah I mean what one thing I was thinking of is you mentioned deplatforming is
I think I think it all
B-day narrowly tomorrow division
And the sunset you know sort of the mainstream cultural institutions are more left
Do you see these social media sites 30 platforming people
But
It's not
It's not something that's Universal
Like you know
There's just no communication by Trump supporters and stuff on the internet maybe you pick all those up
Are there places in America where are you go out you talk to your neighbor
They agree with you politically you're both on the right you talk about it
So I think
I think DePauw formation deplatforming
Will just lead to
To sort out of more extremism in the people who are deplatformed but
I think toll Lost Abbey sort of communities that sort of separate in their just generally
Idea of how they see the world and if you're trying to neighboring like those you see that what really happened is best
And you sort of you can still have a collective idea
Because there are these
You know that there are different places with different
Different cultures in different shirt ideas I think if you
If you stop the communication you will have more more fracturing
Just in the broader Society
Threaten people will trust
Media
Even less
End
I think
That
What we're seeing
With a deep
Is the culture
Is sort of trying to saucer protectionist
Instant
Which says we must
Subdue anything that will be
Opossum
End
The problem with
Is that your
Creating more
Opportunity
For Radicals
Extremism
Cuz
Suppression I don't think suppression never works I really don't I think
And I think that
Suppression is going to
Create more
More animus in
Just
Altogether that those groups that we could see let's say we could see all the
Proud boys
And three percenters on parlor
Will you take them off
You take parler
Are you take them off
Where do they go
They're not just going to stay up
Well
I guess I guess we can't
Beat out of him
You know I I think that
That is a very
Simplistic naive in and
And I almost asked
I'll have some academics on
Eventually cuz I want to talk to them about
How they look
At
Extremist
At its most
Extreme it let's be honest
It's mostly extremism from the right
Play attention
Another reason for
Again
These statistics
But you here cited
The deaths
Right
As opposed to left
That's true
But that does not mean
That left
Does not influence
In some ways it
Trace back the history back
L880
And you go to
Like neo-Nazi
The skinheads going up again
Anti-racist
That
Discomfort
Has been
Around 4.
And these are different new iterations
That we're seeing
But
They exist
Symbiotic
Stat
That
If you take
If you put them together
They
Begin to give each other
Purpose
So
If you give one an undecided Vic
Nud platform the other
Well you're not looking at
Holistic
You're giving more opportunity
For that
Suppress
The deep web for
To want to radicalize even more
And when in reality
We should be looking at both sides
And get
Trying to get everybody
And come to some understanding of who we are
And how we can
I have conversations
That are difficult
But media is not interested
And you're right like there are certain things that trend
It was if you could
If you could steal my video of Pennsylvania mother
With a ball
And say
That was
Evidence
Coordination
When really it was
Just a woman
Who was very
Sort of exuberant and kind of helicoptering her advice
With maybe one person listening to her
.
Description
Righteous Que
If I you know
If I did something like this why should my video
Really broke broken
Bruk It Down
That's my
That's not what
People are latching onto in the moment in the moment
They want that one Sound by
That satisfy
Aldi's
Assertive
In their own minds
To show
That
That side
Wrong for that site is
You're despicable
Whatever
Whatever word you want to use
And that media is working in service
Of that
I think the only way we pull back
Is if we can get Mediacom
To realize the value
The Value Inn
Content coming out
2 months later I month later
That really breaks down
The truth we're starting to see that with
Like HBO documentary
Netflix
Get out
Is is
If we
Are able to
Look at
If that is able to take pressure
Over
The instantaneous Twitter gratification
Processing information
That we might have hope
That's my that's my type
Yeah I mean
Hi I'm still still a little hopeful
Yeah it's it's like I think I think I sort of the right has a lot of valid criticisms of media
But unfortunately
Many of that sort of right-wing media companies who have spring up like look at how bad
Mainstream media companies are
So we're going to do it
A lot of those seem to fall into the same
It's the same yunos counterproductive behaviors of Galactus
Look at all the bad things and evenness
UNIF every single
I incident they post about is true
That doesn't mean the overall narrative is accurate
Is
Sort of portraying what's really going on
You know you can say will look this person dead hit a police officer in this person did like something on time this person did Smash
When do all those might be true
But
Like
I don't know is that the focus like
Is is that useful to focus on
What we were
Told and there was a
Speechless
An activist named Kimberly Jones
Famously aired I think in the hole by
John Oliver
I know she did
Trevor Noah show The Daily Show
And
Her.
Went viral which is you have to ask yourself why the people
By breaking the window
It has to be an awesome
Why are
Are people doing
They're doing
What are people in our society
Collect
Reacting
I think that that
Once we set
Ourmine
To that
And try to address that
As opposed to
Just get
Achar
Out of being right
Are being
The one whose
You know or demonizing the other side
If we can
We can figure out how to do that
And we're going to make progress
If we're stuck in this rut
The white we've been in
We're not
Get out end
From the likes of it we get man some supportive
Comments thanks for trying
Polarized
Festival right now
Destructive
Fashionable
It is very fast
It is very
And younger
Directions now you're
You're a
A different generation than I
And maybe you can address generationally
Ruc here's another
Here's another. it's interesting to hear somebody quote
Martin Luther King a riot is the
I think it's
It's the voice of the voiceless
I think that the quotas the ride is
The voice of the unheard
MLK sad
I appreciate your
To depolarize
So now you have
Somebody
In the
Siding
Am I okay which is
Which is interest
And you know some people can
Be offended by that
But but
It's
It's Jermaine
2
What I
The same
Reniec Kimberly Jones said
Why are the
The people doing what
What they're doing
There is more to that
The ride is the
Voice of the unheard
Martin Luther King goes on
To say I hope we can
Avoid rice
I had speakers ultimate
They are socially
How to be honest
Messed with the amount of social destruction
That we have been dealing with over the last year
Until we're honest about
About what
Happened
Then
Where
Going to be stuck
In this finger point
And even in showing this video there is trepidation
In the sense that there are
Keyboard Warriors out there now
My work is not heavily traffic
But there could be people who watch
I want to get every single person
Who is at the Kappa
Which is just insane
Because
That the
The even the methodology of I got to get
I have to
Get people
And this is just accountability I can get them
It's not going to address the
Fundamental
Issue
Which is the polarization and the demonization of each other and
Of of
Mutual respect
So
I'm curious generous generational
How you see that
That query
Before we go
Because I know that the
Your generation online
Philip Morris
And
A lot more
Has been able to
What they have invested interest in
To see the future they want
What has that led to some generational intolerance
Yeah I mean I'm not I'm not sure I can speak to my generation too much I don't I don't know how much time I
Stand around my generation
I think
I think God to some extent there been studies that like you know My Generation V battery
Sort of
At picking out fake news
Sword Art online I think they're they're better at navigating online spaces but in terms of
The political polarisation I don't know it seems like there are a lot of no use
Youth involved in in a lot of activism
I'm on the last especially
But you know someone the right to especially
Especially like pro-life events there's anything more about portion of like teenagers
And that by age range I compared to other things like you know what they at the capital I don't
Anime silent teenagers there
But it was it was
Much
Certainly
Well
Any last
Started parting thoughts as you watch this
Going out
Into the
Twitterverse in
The YouTube YouTube
Sphere any thoughts that you have
Things that you see
When you watch it over and over again.
Maybe
You didn't see it
And I don't think there is any anything major that I that I know this
This time going through
Anything that you picked up
Maybe not the first
You picked up later
But you didn't see me
Or something
You look at
I bought this is sort of the first time I really like a gun through and it detailed way
Yeah it's I don't I don't know I guess I guess
There wasn't anything that jumped out at me is something that the camera capture that I didn't notice cuz I think Jen and I notice
More than the camera capture just
No just the way it was
Just getting a better idea like meow to see something like about it
There was one more clip that I didn't
I didn't
Play at Knotts when you are by the statue
Yes this is this is early early in the morning for most sorry this is a different one
This was
When you write a statue
Yes yes by the statue
Mike mobile
Is watch how the crowd
Will starting looser
It's not
Even this early slow build it just kind of comes
I know
I think it's
It looks like they have control the situation
And then boom
Yeah you can see how easy it would be for someone who got trampled in a situation like that
And yes no one person is in control of where it moves
And on my website public report.org you do see
Public report.org capital
With an O
I have some interview
And one of them is a
Pacific Northwest
Video livestreamer
Who
Tells me that he's right next
To Roseanne Boylan when she
Collapse
And that it was
Spray going everywhere
People can breathe
And
The woman Club
The ground and he was there with her
When when she died
And.
So
You know overall the referred
Civilian deaths in and one law officer
Who died there were two officers who
Who committed suicide Within
The next month or so so I believe there's at least one not one Rider who committed suicide
Oh really
Iok
Yes I did read that
Report to
You know iodide omitted that
You know
So the David
The
National Socialist sympathizer guy interview
And in
One thing we didn't touch on
Which was
Was he alone or did he have other people the guy
That
Gets on the mic
After him
I think had a Gadsden flag
And he's he's talking about
Ashley
David being shot
And he corrects himself
Because he said we Indonesia
Not where I was in Breaking the window
Was wearing some black
But I couldn't tell if he was with
The other guy they might have
Just met you know
Again this is how sort of
Desperate when it comes to
Companies called autonomous action
Leftist
Choose the term
Action Village
Comes out
Without certify
Fix an extensive network planning
It's unclear
If this guy who
Was interesting
It is an interview
He's definitely anti diversity and against everything
Certainly
But
Steamed
She was alone
Because he goes and talks to he talks about going to the mayor's
Houston protest
I went to the mayor's
Residence
After drop
P.m. hour nothing a
I think they all probably got
Sent somewhere else
But
He shows up the neck
January 6th
Still in his tactic
To quote unquote
Take some sort of
Responsibility
You know just like when you said mission
But it's not
Clear that
He had anybody else working with him by himself he does say in my interview that
Then she went down
With
Did you record a 20
20 Patriot is the number whenever I played it okay
With 20 Patriots down
To add jatate the crap
Out of the media
Nuts on the Eastside there was a media pen
And all of the major networks
Who are there have there
Equipment
Smashed
And they
They sort of real life
Mainstream media
So that guy though
If you had 20 people
It's not clear that those 20 people
Knew each other before
It seems more
Reasonable
Given the oven
But he showed up alone
And that he didn't have to
He didn't seem to have a posse with him when he gave his rousing mission accomplished
He seemed like
Hehehe
It was a little bit of a loner
And so that tells me that again here's a professed National Socialist you had another
National Socialist sympathizer that was arrested in the headline
Because he was a
Are a contractor for the military
It's just came out the other day
That
He was arrested in that he had grown
Hitler mustache
At one point
I don't know if it was years ago
But of course this is
Headline news spread again
You know how do these people fit into
The same category is the
Space alien
Yes I want
And
Or are they and that's the big question
And that's why we need our
Are hatewatch group
To not be political
Call to not be
Partisan
But we need them to look at it
And tell us what are we really dealing
What are we
What is the quotient
Of actual
White supremacy
Sheets for any of that kind of
National
That is hate
And we have to have a real discussion
Cuz otherwise
The weaponization of information
If you know you know you are
No you are and then
Everybody getting online to make sure everybody else goes
Jail
It's the
The again the rest of the quote the riot the voice of
Is the voice of the unheard is that riots world
My socially destructive
And we have a lot to I think
To reckon with
And reconcile still
Yeah 9
One thing in terms of the hate groups or the hate watch
SFU looking at from one angle it's sort of
It's certainly a good sign that they're being politicized because if you have one side where I guess half the few
On your country think racism is okay they're not going to be worried about you calling them racist
If you know what I mean
So it's like the very fact that you know racism or white supremacy is used
As a as a partisan attack now
Elsa
I think I think it's sort of proof that is not something that is generally accepted in society
Maybe even the thing the fascism thing
You know
You talk to people
If you talk to you about Trump
Hey are you a fast
Very few will say
That their profession
Summer that there yeah
But that they believe in some sort of authoritarianism
A lot of them are anti at the
In-N-Out
And
Do I think maybe they can be misguided in seeing
Donald Trump is this
Assertive
Savior
Against authoritarianism II think that's
Geico
Authoritarian and in wreck
So that's just my personal opinion
But we can talk
And the only way we can talk about this stuff
If we just stop labeling
And ending the conversation before they have it
Otherwise
It's going to be political gridlock
It's going to be
You know
More of the same and I think people are tired of it
And so
I hope that
You know shows like this thank you everybody
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Told activist
I am researching
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Claims
Naked
Telephone Doral
To which a banjo player
Can lose his job just because he
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Important
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Long sections that are in
Half hour log
I now have an 1/2 hour long clip
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Actual local port
Compressed
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Infiltrator
Is the main source
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You're going to find out
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